I really really was impressed when I watched Biden's address to congress yesterday, and so were the majority of other people who also watched it! See the article called JUST IN: Joe Biden Scores Whopping 85 Percent Approval Among Those Who Watched Address to Congress .
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Report Card : How’s President Biden Doing?
by minimus ini give him an f for falling down on the job..
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Joe Biden Scores Whopping 85 Percent Approval Among Those Who Watched Address to Congress
by Disillusioned JW insee the article called just in: joe biden scores whopping 85 percent approval among those who watched address to congress .
i sure was impressed with it when i saw it..
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See the article called JUST IN: Joe Biden Scores Whopping 85 Percent Approval Among Those Who Watched Address to Congress . I sure was impressed with it when I saw it.
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Report Card : How’s President Biden Doing?
by minimus ini give him an f for falling down on the job..
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PBS NewsHour yesterday (April 27, 2021) in a portion of their broadcast had video documentation of the far so-called "right" wing media (which I now call the "wrong wing media") making some very misleading comments and even outright lies. The PBS broadcast also explained that the wrong wing media's statements of lies and misinformation are motivated by financial reasons. I encourage people are who believe in the far "right' media's sharp criticisms of the Biden administration, and of the criticisms of the message that human caused climate change is a serious matter, to watch and listen the PBS video footage (transcripts are also provided) from the following web pages:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-misinformation-is-used-to-amplify-and-solidify-ideology
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/conservatives-beef-with-biden-over-false-red-meat-claims
Regarding the false claim that Biden has accomplished nothing as President, please watch and listen to his first joint address to congress (as I type this is on live TV). In the address Biden mentions some of his accomplishments.
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Report Card : How’s President Biden Doing?
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DesirousOfChange, I watch multiple news channels but are all the broadcast TV channels (ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, and local affiliate of Fox Tc [totally different from the cable Fox TV), since I don't have cable TV and since I don't have satellite TV. At the break room at work I watch some of online programming from CNN. I read news articles from multiple sources (that come up in searches from Google and sometimes from Bing) and yes they are nearly all mainstream and left leaning news sources, since the right wing coverage to me is often "wrong wing" extremely distorted coverage in regards to political coverage and in regards to some other topics.
I have concern about revealing much about myself online, and especially on this site since the elders might figure out who I am, but I will tell you this much about my age. I was in public school during the 1970s and 1980 and ever since back then I wanted the Equal Rights Amendment to be ratified into the USA Constitution and I have identified ideologically with the very left-wing progressive branch of the Democratic Party (and former Teddy Roosevelt's environmentalist liberal Republican and Bull Moose Progressive Party) political views. I possibly became even somewhat more left-wing as I got older, as a result of learning more. I voted for Bernie Sanders in the Democratic Primaries in 2016 and in 2020 and for a while I was a member of the Green Party and voted for their Presidential candidates. I am now an atheist. Does that answer your question?
How old are you?
Regarding how Harris advanced her career the VP position, I don't believe at all the slurs and defaming junk you been listening to and reading from the "wrong wing" news media sources which backed Trump.
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How long did it take before you realized that you missed the obvious?
by pistolpete inremember when the public speaker in the kingdom hall or convention related the ten plagues and the parting of the red sea?.
the finale when jehovah closes the red sea and swallows pharaoh's entire army of egyptian men.. when i was a little kid about 5 years old and listened to this story, i would think---wow jehovah is strong.
when i started school and started learning compassion as early as the first grade i started wondering?????.
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Diogenesister, the WT has actually admitted that their idea of a bodily resurrection is literally a recreation. I don't yet remember which WT book said it in detail (comparing it to how the cells of our bodies are duplicates which replaced other cells years ago), but page 175 in ph. 16 of the Life Does Have a Purpose book (c. 1977) briefly mentions the idea. The first sentence of that ph. says 'As to the resurrected one, God will accurately "re-create" each individual with his entire life pattern, personality and memory just as it was.' That wording might give the impression that the remains of the pattern, personality, and memory of the person will be collected and put back together, but elsewhere the WT literature says Jehovah will remake them using Jehovah's memory of those aspects of the person.You are right that the "JWs have a materialists['] view of life" and since I loved science since early childhood and since I knew scientific literature about the mind and the brain is also that way, it enabled to accept some of the JW ideas as scientifically correct and it helped to eventually pave the way to me becoming a positive/strong atheist and a philosophical/scientific atheist. Praise science.
Regarding the soul while they teach we don't have a soul in the same sense that most people use the word "soul", they do teach that whole person/being is a soul - including our mind with our body and that God can restore it from death - albeit by recreating it (creating a copy of it) since they believe that God has a perfect memory of mind.
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How long did it take before you realized that you missed the obvious?
by pistolpete inremember when the public speaker in the kingdom hall or convention related the ten plagues and the parting of the red sea?.
the finale when jehovah closes the red sea and swallows pharaoh's entire army of egyptian men.. when i was a little kid about 5 years old and listened to this story, i would think---wow jehovah is strong.
when i started school and started learning compassion as early as the first grade i started wondering?????.
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Magnum what you said is so right in saying words matter. Another example would be to read a book purported to have been published in the 1700s saying that "a burning ball that looked like the basketballs officially used in NBA championships in the United States of America was lobbed from the deck of one iron clad steam powered ship to the other ship."
The reference to the sword in Genesis 3:24 should probably being viewed as anachronistic.
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Sample Disassociation Letters
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat do you think of the following sample disassociation letter from 4jehovah.org ?.
if you are looking to disassociate from jehovah’s witnesses, here is a sample letter you can modify for your use:.
i have decided to disassociate myself from the ____________ congregation of jehovah’s witness.
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Disillusioned JW
Correction: In my prior post where I wrote "Furthermore, stating in my book that I officiate quit the religion (despite the huge repercussions it brings), and stating the reasons why, would make me more credible as an author in the minds of many readers who are wondering if they should stop believing in religion and in a god (or gods). A letter of disassociation is a way to repudiate the WT/JW religion." I meant to write: "Furthermore, stating in my book that I officially quit the religion (despite the huge repercussions it brings), and stating the reasons why, would make me more credible as an author in the minds of many readers who are wondering if they also should stop believing in religion and in a god (or gods). A letter of disassociation is a way to repudiate the WT/JW religion, and depending upon the wording, to even repudiate Christianity, the Bible, and all supernaturalistically minded religions. It can also be a way to boldly say 'I am an apostate and an anti-Christ and a blasphemer (of the idea of god, but from an atheistic perspective not of god himself because to a positive atheist their is no god) and I'm proud of it.' " -
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Sample Disassociation Letters
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat do you think of the following sample disassociation letter from 4jehovah.org ?.
if you are looking to disassociate from jehovah’s witnesses, here is a sample letter you can modify for your use:.
i have decided to disassociate myself from the ____________ congregation of jehovah’s witness.
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Disillusioned JW
I notice that people, in trying to convince others not to write a letter of disassociation, keep saying 'you don't have to give anyone an explanation' and 'you don't owe them anything'. But most of those who are considering writing a disassociation letter are not doing so for the benefit of the elders; they are not feeling they owe the elders anything. They are doing so, I think, because they want to be officially on record as having voluntarily officially quit the religion instead being expelled from the religion. For such ones, fading without later officially disassociating is inadequate, since (I think) they may have in mind of officially and openly joining another religion (or an anti-religious organization), or in writing a book (openly mentioning them as the author) that extensively criticizes religion and in which states they have resigned from religion.
For me, if I were to complete the writing of a pro-atheism book and get it published, my self esteem would be much higher if I could honestly state in the book that I officially quit the religion, instead of being expelled form it, and that I could document to people that I quit it instead of being expelled from it. After the atheist book is published people might falsely accuse me (including in writing) that I committed immorality and was kicked out of the religion instead of me having quit the religion. Without a disassociation letter I wouldn't be able to publicly prove I voluntary quit the religion, but with a notarized disassociation letter sent via registered mail to the congregation and to the headquarters of the WT/JW religion I could prove to people what really happened. Furthermore, stating in my book that I officiate quit the religion (despite the huge repercussions it brings), and stating the reasons why, would make me more credible as an author in the minds of many readers who are wondering if they should stop believing in religion and in a god (or gods). A letter of disassociation is a way to repudiate the WT/JW religion.
A number of people who left various organizations did so officially, partly so they could repudiate them and make such known publicly.
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Sample Disassociation Letters
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat do you think of the following sample disassociation letter from 4jehovah.org ?.
if you are looking to disassociate from jehovah’s witnesses, here is a sample letter you can modify for your use:.
i have decided to disassociate myself from the ____________ congregation of jehovah’s witness.
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Disillusioned JW
Corrections: Where in my prior post I said "The other elders of that congregation said they had been aware I had disassociated ..." I meant to say "The other elders of that congregation said they had not been aware I had disassociated ..." Where I said "... that their is no god ..." I meant to say "... that there is no god ...". Where I said "... though now they more reserved ..." I meant to say "... though now they are more reserved ...".
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Sample Disassociation Letters
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat do you think of the following sample disassociation letter from 4jehovah.org ?.
if you are looking to disassociate from jehovah’s witnesses, here is a sample letter you can modify for your use:.
i have decided to disassociate myself from the ____________ congregation of jehovah’s witness.
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Disillusioned JW
Not all types of letters to the elders and to the WT will get a person labeled as disassociated, even if they express difficulties with what is written in WT literature and ask for explanations of such.
Years ago (after I faded) I wrote a letter to the WT in which I quoted things in the WT's KIT and the 2006 printing edition of the NWT Bible, and WT literature pertaining to evolution, which puzzled me because they looked very problematic (and I stated detailed reasons why they were problematic to me). In the letter I asked the WT to please provide me with explanations/answers in their defense. In that letter I also asked for the sources used for quotes of scientists mentioned in the Creator book. The WT never wrote back to me. I later phone called their headquarters regarding my request and a man told me (on the phone) he has the answers to the questions but that he won't tell me the answers. After asking if I was baptized (something which I thought the WT would already know the answer to) I told him I was, then the man on the phone told me to go the elders and ask them the answers, saying they might have them. I told them I do not see how they could possibly have these specific answers since only the WT would know what sources they used and why they worded things a certain way in their literature (unless of course, the WT later sent a letter to the congregation providing such information). The man said he questioned my motivates and he asked me if I was trying to change the views of the WT society. I said I was not trying to change the WT views; I only wanted answers to my questions. But, he said he didn't believe me. The man at WT/JW headquarters later told me that unless the congregation's elders (who thus personally know me, unlike the man at headquarters) asks the WT/JW headquarters to provide the information to me, the WT will not provide the information to me. I then reluctantly contacted the elders to obtain the answers and the elders gave various ideas as answers to me but they were inadequate.I talked to the elders in person and I corresponded with one of them via email about the matter. After a week or so I stopped receiving replies from the elder I was emailing.
The WT never provided the answers to me. Eventually I wrote a letter to the elders saying I resign from the Theocratic Ministry School and from voluntary servitude to the WT organization and from being a publisher (this was years after I stopped participating in the school, from attending the Memorial, and as a publisher, but I wanted to make the status official). I asked that either my publisher record card be destroyed or that it have notes added to it saying I have resigned from the school and from being a publisher. I received no reply to that letter.
Not long ago an elder, in the congregation of my JW immediate family members, told other elders in that congregation that I have disassociated myself (a JW family member of mine told me such). The other elders of that congregation said they had been aware I had disassociated, thus they later inquired about the matter with those of my former congregation. The elders of my former congregation then informed the elders of the other congregation that I am classified as inactive - not disassociated (a JW family member of mine told me such).
Years ago I told my JW immediate family members that I am now an atheist who is convinced that nothing (and no one) supernatural exists at all. I also told them that I am convinced of evolution, and that I am writing a book that tries to convince all types of god-believers that their is no god, nor anything else supernatural (but that my book is far from being finished). It was a huge shock for them to learn those things, but they still associate with me. They sometimes try to convince me that I am wrong (despite me asking them not to, though now they more reserved in their efforts and now I am far less offended by their efforts) and that they want me to survive through the great tribulation and Armageddon. They don't want me to disassociate from the religion because they say that if I did so they would have to do what the WT (and in their minds, also Jehovah) says in regards of how to treat disassociated ones. They also don't want me to disassociate because it would make it harder for me to become active in the religion again (and, in their minds, to become saved through Armageddon). I also think they would feel very sad and embarrassed if JWs heard I had become disassociated (or an officially ex-JW whether or not they knew it is from disassociation).